Interview with Roy Simpson (State Superintendent of Public Instruction), Vernon Sturgeon (State Senator for S.L.O. District, then Legislative Secretary to Governor Reagan), and Louis S. Merrill (General Manager of the Western Fairs Association). The interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project, conducted by a Stanford doctoral student named Richard Dale Moody. The title of the dissertation is "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee" and was completed in 1968. [00:00:11] Recording begins; Moody repeats names of interviewees [00:00:55] Moody asks Simpson about knowing McPhee [00:02:00] Simpson discusses his early knowledge of Moody [00:03:10] Simpson and Merrill discuss the dates of McPhee at Cal Poly [00:04:47] Simpson talks about McPhee as a politician [00:08:35] Simpson talks about his early professional relationship with McPhee [00:12:00] Simpson talks about the acquisition of the Kellogg property [00:14:45] Moody asks about McPhee's popularity with other college presidents [00:18:15] Simpson talks about McPhee's control over his faculty and students [00:23:20] Moody asks about McPhee as lobbyist [00:30:27] Simpson talks about the appointments of various directors to the board [00:33:00] Simpson talks about a man named Seaman at Foothill Community College [00:35:42] Moody asks about the upside-down approach, Simpson discusses problem-solving at length [00:51:00] Moody asks about the relationship Simpson has with the president [00:56:30] Simpson talks about motivation for board members and restlessness [01:03:00] Moody wraps up interview

Interview with Harry R. Wellman, who in 1967-1968 served as acting President of the University of California system. Wellman was also an important agricultural educator, and his interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project, conducted by a Stanford doctoral student named Richard Dale Moody. The title of the dissertation is "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee" and was completed in 1968. [00:00:12] Moody records brief introduction, noting date, time, location of interview [00:01:01] Wellman asked about his relationship with Julian McPhee [00:02:40] Wellman describes working with McPhee, early relationship [00:06:44] Wellman describes history of employment, including his university positions [00:07:38] Wellman discusses agricultural education in university system [00:08:23] Wellman discusses McPhee's philosophy for education [00:10:19] Wellman discusses McPhee's relationship to Cal Poly [00:12:25] Wellman discusses Ed Lee [00:13:10] Wellman discusses accreditation [00:13:42] Moody asks about additional vocational philosophies in the university system [00:14:30] Moody discusses vocational training at Cal Poly [00:15:19] Moody asks about McPhee's recognition in the university system [00:16:50] Wellman talks about McPhee's impact on university system [00:18:04] Moody finishes up recording; further contents are garbled and unrelated

Interview with Harry R. Wellman, who in 1967-1968 served as acting President of the University of California system. Wellman was also an important agricultural educator, and his interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project, conducted by a Stanford doctoral student named Richard Dale Moody. The title of the dissertation is "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee" and was completed in 1968. [00:00:12] Moody records brief introduction, noting date, time, location of interview [00:01:01] Wellman asked about his relationship with Julian McPhee [00:02:40] Wellman describes working with McPhee, early relationship [00:06:44] Wellman describes history of employment, including his university positions [00:07:38] Wellman discusses agricultural education in university system [00:08:23] Wellman discusses McPhee's philosophy for education [00:10:19] Wellman discusses McPhee's relationship to Cal Poly [00:12:25] Wellman discusses Ed Lee [00:13:10] Wellman discusses accreditation [00:13:42] Moody asks about additional vocational philosophies in the university system [00:14:30] Moody discusses vocational training at Cal Poly [00:15:19] Moody asks about McPhee's recognition in the university system [00:16:50] Wellman talks about McPhee's impact on university system [00:18:04] Moody finishes up recording; further contents are garbled and unrelated

Interview with Chancellor Dumke early in his career as the head of the California State Colleges system. The interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project undertaken by a Stanford graduate student named Richard Dale Moody. The dissertation was titled "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee", and completed in 1968 . [00:00:10] Recording begins mid-sentence, Moody asking about California State College impression of McPhee [00:01:10] Dumke describes McPhee's career, describing his ambition and success, upside-down curriculum [00:04:43] Dumke continues to describe McPhee's approach to college presidency [00:08:45] Dumke discusses McPhee's legislative relationships for university goals [00:12:40] Moody asks about McPhee's flexibility [00:16:37] McPhee's personal qualities continue to be discussed [00:18:00] Moody asks about McPhee's conservative mindset [00:19:35] Dumke advocates for additional liberal arts education [00:21:15] McPhee described as intolerant of flexibility [00:22:00] Interview winds to an end, a few additional deans mentioned [00:22:42] McPhee's legendary persuasion lamented as something he had never fully realized

Interview with Chancellor Dumke early in his career as the head of the California State Colleges system. The interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project undertaken by a Stanford graduate student named Richard Dale Moody. The dissertation was titled "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee", and completed in 1968 . [00:00:10] Recording begins mid-sentence, Moody asking about California State College impression of McPhee [00:01:10] Dumke describes McPhee's career, describing his ambition and success, upside-down curriculum [00:04:43] Dumke continues to describe McPhee's approach to college presidency [00:08:45] Dumke discusses McPhee's legislative relationships for university goals [00:12:40] Moody asks about McPhee's flexibility [00:16:37] McPhee's personal qualities continue to be discussed [00:18:00] Moody asks about McPhee's conservative mindset [00:19:35] Dumke advocates for additional liberal arts education [00:21:15] McPhee described as intolerant of flexibility [00:22:00] Interview winds to an end, a few additional deans mentioned [00:22:42] McPhee's legendary persuasion lamented as something he had never fully realized

Interview with Raymond A. Rydell, in 1967 the Executive Vice Chancellor of the California State Colleges system. The interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project, conducted by a Stanford doctoral student named Richard Dale Moody. The tile of the dissertation is "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee" and was completed in 1968. [00:00:11] Recording begins, Moody talks about minutes from a trustees meeting [00:02:40] Moody reads verbatim a recognition of McPhee's excellence post-retirement [00:05:18] Rydell answers question about McPhee's contribution to higher education [00:09:11] Rydell talks about McPhee's ability to carry forward the Learn By Doing plan [00:10:20] Rydell talks about support received from alumni [00:12:30] Rydell talks about the liberal arts education at Cal Poly [00:14:10] Rydell talks about various recent changes in the curriculum offered at Cal Poly [00:16:00] Cal Poly Pomona is discussed [00:16:50] Rydell talks about the challenge from the Board of Trustees to McPhee [00:18:32] Moody and Rydell discuss the influence of Cal Poly's applied programs on other schools [00:22:00] Rydell discusses the effects felt by the loss of McPhee on the state school system [00:24:20] Moody reflects on the effect of SLO on the larger school system [00:26:00] Rydell praises Moody for choosing McPhee as a subject of a dissertation

Interview with Raymond A. Rydell, in 1967 the Executive Vice Chancellor of the California State Colleges system. The interview is part of a doctoral dissertation project, conducted by a Stanford doctoral student named Richard Dale Moody. The tile of the dissertation is "Advocate for vocational education in California: the professional career of Julian A. McPhee" and was completed in 1968. [00:00:11] Recording begins, Moody talks about minutes from a trustees meeting [00:02:40] Moody reads verbatim a recognition of McPhee's excellence post-retirement [00:05:18] Rydell answers question about McPhee's contribution to higher education [00:09:11] Rydell talks about McPhee's ability to carry forward the Learn By Doing plan [00:10:20] Rydell talks about support received from alumni [00:12:30] Rydell talks about the liberal arts education at Cal Poly [00:14:10] Rydell talks about various recent changes in the curriculum offered at Cal Poly [00:16:00] Cal Poly Pomona is discussed [00:16:50] Rydell talks about the challenge from the Board of Trustees to McPhee [00:18:32] Moody and Rydell discuss the influence of Cal Poly's applied programs on other schools [00:22:00] Rydell discusses the effects felt by the loss of McPhee on the state school system [00:24:20] Moody reflects on the effect of SLO on the larger school system [00:26:00] Rydell praises Moody for choosing McPhee as a subject of a dissertation